True colours revealed (again)


That didn’t take long. Islamic leaders frequently make token gestures towards cooperation in dealing with the problem of radicals and extremism (to lull the infidels into a false sense of security), but all it takes is for the professionally aggrieved to be offended at some imagined slight of the filthy kafir, and the whole deal is off.

Rather than work with the vast majority of Australians, who want this threat of home-grown Islamic terrorism eliminated, they therefore chose to isolate themselves even further. Presumably this is merely setting the scene for yet more cries of ‘racism’ and ‘Islamophobia’:

RADICAL [really?] Islamic groups have launched a scathing attack on the Prime Minister’s call for Australian Muslims to join “Team Australia”, urging all Islamic leaders to boycott meetings with the PM.

And in an extraordinary rift, the extremist [really?] Muslims have even turned on their own leader, Australia’s Grand Mufti Ibrahim Abu ­Mohamed, lambasting him for meeting Mr Abbott on Monday to discuss new laws to safeguard Australians from a potential jihadist terrorist attack.

The Islamic Council of Victoria, which represents the state’s 150,000 Muslims, yesterday boycotted a meeting with the PM after earlier indicating it would attend.

And radical Sydney-based groups Hizb ut-Tahrir and al Risalah took to social media to attack Mr Abbott’s bid to unite Australians and protect the nation from extremist violence. (source)

They realise that such laws would hinder the unfettered spread of Islam in Australia (by force or otherwise), so any true Muslim would be unable to support them.

And in other Religion of Peace news, Islamic State beheads US journalist, posts photos.

UPDATE: Confirmation, if any were needed, that this kind of barbaric and grotesque violence is an ‘Islam thing’:

Khalid bin Walid(ra) beheaded 70,000 Persian prisoners of war after the battle of Ullias, its 100% Islaam, in case a munafiq [hypocrite] says it isn’t.

— Abu Mansoor (@TaifaMansoora) August 19, 2014

So now you know!

Where on earth did they get the idea that such actions are acceptable in Islam? Oh yes, that’s it, it’s in the Qur’an (47:4), and Muhammad did it. And if Muhammad did it, then all Muslims can (and indeed, should) do it, because he was, is, and shall be for all eternity, the example of the ‘perfect’ man whom all Muslims must strive to emulate.

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Peace and compassion, Islam-style

“So when you meet those who disbelieve [in battle], strike [their] necks until, when you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then secure their bonds, and either [confer] favor afterwards or ransom [them] until the war lays down its burdens.” (47:4)

But to dare to mention any of this is ‘Islamophobic’…

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  1. May I respectfully request a change of font for this site? I find it very hard to read. Thanks.

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  2. Ross Stacey says:

    These facts need repeating every day. Australia allows free practice of all religions. However, Ausralian law is based on Christian principles. Australia’s laws must be followed by all Australians. If Muslims won’t accept that they should not be allowed to be Australian nor accept the benefits of living in Australia

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    • Historically that may be true, but one would hope, as things evolve, we would move our laws and culture to a completely secular basis,

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      • luisadownunder says:

        Laws and culture will always be based on something. Ours is based on Christian principles, as Ross has noted.
        Remember that murder, adultery, fornication, theft and dishonesty are the basic tenets of our laws….and these are secular.

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        • Well as I wrote, *historically* that is true, but one would hope that any connection between our laws and ANY religion would eventually be removed over time (if they haven’t already).

          Christianity has no monopoly on morality, or any other issue related to lawful or unlawful behaviour, and there is no reason to concede that our present day laws are Christian based because we could have evolved the exact same set of laws through any number of historical path ways. In other words any connection with Christianity is merely an historical accident.

          I am mindful here of the importance of not trying to imply that Islamism is bad because it is not Christian, or that Christianity is in some way superior to Islam in the sense of being more “moral”.

          Islam is bad because it is dangerously intolerant of other doctrines and, more importantly, non-doctrines (such as atheism).

          As an atheist I am appalled at Islam’s behaviour *starting* at the fact that it is predicated on a lie (that there is a God), and *ending* in the most appalling behaviour of all, trying, aggressively, to enforce it’s lie on others more enlightened.

          I would certainly hope that we have no laws relating to adultery or fornication at present (providing they occur outside of the areas of unlawful behaviour such a gross indecency etc), If there are those laws should be immediately repealed.

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  3. thingadonta says:

    Violence in Islam It has a lot to do with an honours based social system.

    Nomadic farmers and tribal communities often develop it to protect assets in the absence of strong property and other legal rights. With weak legal rights or laws, honour-based protection becomes more prevalent, not just in Islam, but anywhere there is weak or ineffective legal rights. It is also a major reason the wild west in the US was so crime ridden, wondering cowboys don’t exactly engender a strong sense of settled and enforceable property rights.

    The community then evolves a system where the need to protect one’s family’s, or community, or nations assets-and by extension-honour is more important than just about anything else. It is also the main reason behind the strength of the gun lobby in the USA, it isn’t about self defence, its really about protecting one’s honour, or one’s family’s, or one’s community’s honour. The right to protect honour is vigorously and deeply defended, but curiously, this wasn’t the reason for ‘the right to bare arms’ as originally listed in the constitution (which was about the right to defend against British imperialism), even though this is often quoted. And it is why gun crime is so common in the USA, the honour system was exported from nomadic Scottish and Irish and other European farmers, and possibly also African farmers. Offence against individuals and families needed to be protected by the threat of retaliation. They want the right to have guns to be able to defend and uphold the honour system, which is deeply entrenched.

    We don’t have a deeply entrenched honours based social system in Australia largely because the English farmers never developed it, thankfully. It has always caused more problems than it is worth.

    You can read about it in Pinker’s book ‘the Better Angels of our Nature-why violence has declined’, which also discusses ways to reduce it etc.

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  4. Ken Wedgie says:

    During the second world war, Western (free) Nations found it necessary to construct internment camps. These internment camps were built for the sole purpose to hold those of foreign descent, German, Japanese, Italian, who it was feared may possibly secretly work to assist their respective homelands against our Country during the war. In those camps were many good, hard-working people who had no intention of undermining the stability of their new Country. However, there were almost certainly, many who would have done just that if they had been free to.
    Now Is The Time, to build internment camps in Western nations who are at war against those who’s sole intent is to destroy our citizens, our freedoms and change our society into one of utter chaos and destruction. Now is the time To Build Internment Camps in which to place those who are adherents our enemies beliefs and standards. This should be done to protect Australia until the war is over…. just as in the second world war.

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  5. The atrocious death of James Foley makes me wonder what on earth we can do to stop this violence and the fear it engenders; I don’t know the answer to that but it seems absolutely ridiculous in this context to call Islam is a “religion of peace”.

    What I don’t notice is peaceful Muslim people or their representatives here in Australia publicly denouncing these acts of barbarism, but I do see Muslim leaders playing the “victim” card and withdrawing from meetings to discuss how to counter terrorism. If they want to be part of our communities then surely they need to stand up and be counted with the rest of the Australian people. “Qui tacet consentit”?

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  6. I have had positive experiences among Muslims in Indonesia, Malaysia and Australia who appear to be accepting and friendly. I even have a couple of Muslim friends. But as Pew Global research shows, there is a significant part of the Muslim population around the world including in Australia who support Sharia law and would like to see it implemented globally.

    According to the survey results, the overwhelming majority of Muslims in Southeast Asia (like Malaysia at 86%), South Asia (Afghanistan 99% and Pakistan 84%), the Middle East and North Africa (the highest being Iraq at 91% and the Palestinian territories at 89%), and Sub-Saharan Africa (with the biggest supporter being the Muslims of Niger.)

    You can read about the research here: http://www.pewforum.org/…/the-worlds-muslims-religion…/

    Unfortunately hardly any Muslims, actually speak publicly against this thing. And we know that many of the radicalised Australian Muslims many who were born here, are being radicalised in Australian Mosques.

    You might recall ‘Undercover Mosque’ which is a documentary programme produced by the independent television company Hardcash Productions[1] for the Channel 4 series Dispatches which first aired on 15 January 2007 in the UK. The documentary presents film footage gathered from 12 months of secret investigation into mosques throughout Britain. The film caused a furore in Britain and the world press due to the extremist content of the released footage. West Midlands Police investigated whether criminal offences had been committed by those teaching or preaching at the Mosques and other establishments .

    The end result was that non of the Imams were charged, but Members of the British Conservative and Labour parties requested an official investigation into the alleged dissemination of hate speech at mosques.

    Muslim groups such as the Islamic Human Rights Commission (IHRC) have condemned the documentary as “another example of anti-Muslim hostility,” stating that it “exemplifies the problems of inherent Islamophobia and racism within the mainstream media.”[10] The Muslim Council of Britain criticised it as “heavily hyped,” while its Secretary-General, Muhammad Abdul Bari, described it as employing the “dishonest tactic of selectively quoting from some recorded speeches for the purpose of misrepresentation.”

    Here are some of the quotes from British Imams which were recorded. There is no reason to think similar things aren’t being said in Australia:

    – Dr. Ijaz Mian on the subject of non-Muslim laws: “You cannot accept the rule of the kaffir…[w]e have to rule ourselves and we have to rule the others.”
    – Abu Usamah saying of apostates: “If the imam wants to crucify him he should crucify him. The person is put up on the wood and he’s left there to bleed to death for three days.”
    – Abu Usamah speaking on the deficiency of women’s minds: “Allah has created the woman, even if she gets a PhD, deficient. Her intellect is incomplete, deficient. She may be suffering from hormones that will make her emotional. It takes two witnesses of a woman to equal the one witness of the man.”
    – Praises the killer of a British soldier serving in Afghanistan, stating “The hero of Islam is the one who separated his head from his shoulders.”
    – Abdullah el-Faisal: “You have to bomb the Indian businesses, and as for the Jews you kill them physically.”
    – Advocates violent Jihad against the non-Muslims and predicting that an army of Muslims will arise against the non-Muslims in England.
    – Dr Bilal Philips on marriage with girls before puberty: “The prophet Muhammad practically outlined the rules regarding marriage prior to puberty. With his practice, he clarified what is permissible, and that is why we shouldn’t have any issues about an older man marrying a younger woman, which is looked down upon by this society today, but we know that Prophet Mohammed practised it, it wasn’t abuse or exploitation, it was marriage.” [You might know that Mohammed took a 6 year old as one of his wives and consummated the ‘marriage’ at age 9!]
    – Condemns Muslim integration into British society. (Advocating not integrating)
    – Calls for the overthrow of the British government and democracy. “[T]hey will fight in the cause of Allah. I encourage all of you to be from amongst them, to begin to cultivate ourselves for the time that is fast approaching where the tables are going to turn and the Muslims are going to be in the position of being uppermost in strength, and when that happens, people won’t get killed – unjustly.”
    – Dr. Mian: “You are in a situation in which you have to live like a state within a state, until you take over.”
    – Al Jibali: “By the age of ten, it becomes an obligation on us to force her to wear hijab, and if she doesn’t wear hijab, we hit her.”
    – Dr. Mian praised the Saudi religious police practice of imprisoning people who do not pray: “They send the police, and they say, well, if you don’t come for prayer, close your shop, we will arrest you But if you don’t, then we have to bring the punishment on you, you will be killed, and nobody will pray on you.”
    – Abu Usamah saying that homosexuals should be killed by throwing them off a cliff, stating “throw [the homosexual] off the mountain.”

    How often have you read about or heard a Muslim condemn that type of view within their community?

    With regards this report on the meeting with our PM:
    Muslims back out of meeting with the PM complaining it puts them in the cross hairs for hatred and bigotry. What does that are the vast number of Muslims who hold violent demonstrations in Australia about things which happen overseas. It doesn’t win any friends when prominent Muslims denigrate the Australian way of life and our culture. The way we dress, what we eat and drink and refer to us as infidels.
    It causes conflict when reported advice from senior clerics is that Muslims cannot be friends with non Muslims. It creates conflict when women who don’t wear the veil are considered fresh meat to be attacked.
    But the fact that it is recognised that Muslims represent the greatest terrorist threat to Australia makes it reasonable to have talks with the community to see if they are prepared to denounce acts of terrorism and report those talking about it.
    Muslims are the ONLY cultural group that we have to do this for. Not one single other group represents such a risk. Therefore if Muslims are serious about promoting peace, they should be lead to it, not towards protests and violence.

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  7. Taqiyya plays a major role in Muslim religion. Here in Australia everyone has a right to practice freely their religion or no religion it’s a choice of the freedoms and laws our forefathers gave us; however it appears our freedom’s are being eroded and our laws being manipulated to be turned against us. The first casualty with that cancer “Political Correctness” is the truth. Think not next year or the year after, look at 10 to 20 years when suburbs or towns become “Infidel No Go Zones” and its happening now. I would like to think that I left to my Grandchildren a better Australia when my time is up.

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  8. Old Ranga says:

    Read (or re-read) Ayaan Hirsi Ali any time you’re uncertain. She’s been part of it, got away from it, and has warned of the way the Islamic belief system operates. Again, and again, and again.

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